Curse

Chocolate sesy · Oct 26, 2005, 11:49 AM // 11:49

Its simple... We need a mesmer who spam the spirits shackles during all the game, and they will not have energy for use healing signet, spike combinations, rez signet, and other important skills like revive animal and "iway" if the dont stop for recharge after drop the primal echoes.
We use Wastrel's worry for remove the hex breaker.

From the creator of Thunderclap build ( if you dont believe me, visit http://www.guildwars-hispano.com/for...showtopic=9311 and see the date) comes the final of iways and rangers spikes!!!!

Doux, it isnt your build guy

, be more honest the next time.

Manfred · Oct 26, 2005, 12:39 PM // 12:39

Yeah, but with a good orderer you STILL are losing an extra 30 with each attack. IAS aside, most warriors have adrenaline anyways. I might go me/n with enfeebling blood, shadow of fear, shackles spamming, you SO need sympathetic visage for anti-adren, and well of profane to destroy ordering.

on the edit I realized that this spreads you out a good deal, into 6 attribute lines

death, curses, insp., dom, illusion and fast cast.
So you may have to minimize death, illusion, domination can be lowered a bit, and fast casting too. I guess this is a non-AP intensive build, so it may not kill you to be that horribly spread out...

fenix · Oct 26, 2005, 12:45 PM // 12:45

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will not have energy for use healing signet, spike combinations, rez signet, and other important skills like revive animal and "iway"

Hate to break it to you, but Healing Signet and Rez Signet dont need energy, revive animal is only used to move pet corpses, and even if you do use that, IWAY can still be used with the regular attacks, ditto with ranger spikes.

The Thunderclap build? That's not a build, it's a gimmick. And I doubt you invented it, other people would have been using it without telling.

Chocolate sesy · Oct 26, 2005, 01:40 PM // 13:40

Manfred it is possible change "drain enchant" for shooting images. But it will be a little hard.

talonHate to break it to you, but explain how do you can use a signet with a zero energy and primal echoes up.

Nobody used thunderclap with a shocking weapon before 8 october, date of the post of the link, its a trust evidence you must to believe me xD im the creator!. And thunderclap worked perfectly before the massive reports when people saw how i used it on random arenas. And now cost 10 energy (5 less) and its bugged...

DarkAynjil · Oct 26, 2005, 01:54 PM // 13:54

Spiteful Spirit FTW against IWAY.
Ranger Spike just depends on how good they are - the Migraine Build has a good chance to beat ranger spike (or any other build for that matter) if played correctly, and if the Protector is on the ball.

Gabriel Fallen Monk · Oct 26, 2005, 01:55 PM // 13:55

You are the creator?? I tried an e/w with thunderclap and a lightning axe months ago before it was bugged. Glyph of elemental power to get thunderclap to lvl 18 so I only lost 5 energy per knockdown, decent energy storage, 11 axe mastery, all of that.

Guess what It suked then and it still sux now.

Chocolate sesy · Oct 26, 2005, 02:18 PM // 14:18

Gabriel Fallen Monk it wasnt bugged before, i had a e/mes build with a lot of inspiration magic, for keep up my energy. Now a e/w works but before when tc wasnt bugged it was a crap.

Everybody are saying the same guy, you are not the only one, but no one have evidences like me. TC, probably will make a deep changes on the game, we will see them. We will fun again without igays and craps like that.
Anet its making very well.

Brother Foon Sped · Oct 26, 2005, 06:06 PM // 18:06

Ineptitude?

Something like "For 10 seconds if foe attacks he receives 89 damage and is blinded for 10 seconds" that's with maxed out illusion.

I've been using a mesmer in team arenas and echoing this on multiple targets and then cas spirit of failure. It seems to really put a damper in the day of rangers and warriors.

MSecorsky · Oct 26, 2005, 06:22 PM // 18:22

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Originally Posted by Manfred

Yeah, but with a good orderer you STILL are losing an extra 30 with each attack. IAS aside, most warriors have adrenaline anyways. I might go me/n with enfeebling blood, shadow of fear, shackles spamming, you SO need sympathetic visage for anti-adren, and well of profane to destroy ordering.

Have your ranger (every good group has one...

) bring greater conflag. That puts a complete shutdown on the orders. Add winter as well and all damage now ignores the warriors armor bonus vs physical.

wheel · Oct 26, 2005, 06:32 PM // 18:32

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Originally Posted by Chocolate sesy

From the creator of Thunderclap build ( if you dont believe me, visit http://www.guildwars-hispano.com/for...showtopic=9311 and see the date) comes the final of iways and rangers spikes!!!!

uhh, it says final edit was on october 26, and since i cant read spanish, i have no idea when you actually posted it.

also, coming up with a build based on a broken, bugged skill takes no skill whatsoever. stacking balth's aura's on the ghostly FTW. wowowowow

Freddeh · Oct 26, 2005, 10:45 PM // 22:45

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Originally Posted by Brother Foon Sped

Ineptitude?

Something like "For 10 seconds if foe attacks he receives 89 damage and is blinded for 10 seconds" that's with maxed out illusion.

I've been using a mesmer in team arenas and echoing this on multiple targets and then cas spirit of failure. It seems to really put a damper in the day of rangers and warriors.

ive been running a mesmer warrior/ranger shutdown using ineptitude, clumsiness, and an assortment of other skills...ineptitude with spirit of failure = mana battery

One and Two · Oct 27, 2005, 03:57 AM // 03:57

lmao. the OP better be joking...

either that or he's just...sad.

fenix · Oct 27, 2005, 04:04 AM // 04:04

lol One and Two. Spiteful Spirit and Ineptitude smacks the crap out of IWAY. Thunderclap is easy as to beat. Ever heard of Hex Removals? No? Well they remove hexes...which Thunderclap is.

Thunderclap wasn't crap before it was bugged, it was a good skill to knock out healers for a while. Now it's just stupid because it doesn't work properly. The skill would still be good if you used a Hammer Warrior with Thunderclap and Stonefist Gauntlets, plus some skills that take advantage of KD.